1. Danilinho

    Danilinho Member

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2018
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Console:
    PC
    El Tornado opens a protest because the Origin-ID of the following players doesn´t match the registered ID on Squad Registration forum:
    - VFC_Mestre
    - VFC_Kikuxozito
    - VFC_Canadiano

    In the following video you can see the violation of rule 10.2.

    https://workupload.com/file/GGK8ZzWE

    10.2 Each squad/roster list must be properly entered on VPN and on forum. If a player has different ID on Forum and VPN, the actual ID should match the ID registered on Forum, otherwise the team will get default loss 1-0 in every match the player plays in. If the ID of a player matches the ID on the Forum, but not the ID on VPN, captain will receive 1 match ban.
    To clarify, wrong use of capital and small initial letters don't matter, as long as it is the same ID.

    Best regards,

    Danilinho
     
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2019
  2. Che_Galego

    Che_Galego Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2018
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Console:
    PC
    Hey everyone.

    Danilinho, now I know what you were doing last night when you didn't reply to my "well played" message. You could have to talked to me atm about this, it's a normal behaviour after a loss to be looking for this kind of issues... especially for a team that is used to win like yours.

    Anyway, as anyone who's not nitpicking can see, all those players are registered. Mestrechefe = Mestre, Kikuxozito = Kiko and Canadiano is on the CL transfer window thread (we were there, image attached).
    In that video, if you go to the IFVPA current roster you can see them there without the abbreviation, image attached.
    They play for my team for a long time, you can see them on every game on ifvpa and on our domestic leagues. There's no one with even a similar name that ever played for other team. They've shorten their names because it was too big for fifa nickname (Kiko's case, that could cause report issues on our domestic league) and too big for the shirt (Mestre's case). Canadiano just added the team's tag after a while.

    They've the same names, the change on the forum name matter as much as a capital or small letter on the nickname.

    Btw, El tornado or Elastico? I'm confused, only saw players registered by Elastico on the forum and I played vs El Tornado last night. On the same thread you saw our two players names abbreviated, you can see "If the Squad isnt registered on Forum and VPN until 09th January 19.00 CEST Wednesday, captain has to serve an one match ban and matches could be judged as default win against the team".
    Image attached.


    Best regards,

    Che_Galego
     

    Attached Files:

    Last edited: Mar 1, 2019
    Luso likes this.
  3. JonnyEsbeck

    JonnyEsbeck Staff Member [ iFVPA ] Moderator PC Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2016
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Console:
    PC
    First of all we want to let you know, that the 10.2 Rule is very important in the iFVPA and that we are judging every mistake in there (even when its just one letter or a shorter version of the name and there is no other guy with an similar id!!!) when teams made a legal protest.

    So the protest from Danilinho would be judged as a def win for his team normally, cause the 10.2 rule is violated, even if its just nitpicking.

    BUT: Teams are also in charge to tell the admins if the team name changes, that we could edit it in the forum and vpn. In this case they only told us about the change in vpn.

    So the protest from Che_Galego is also correct and would lead to judgement if its the only case.

    DECISION: Since we have 2 correct protests (one from each side) we will replay the game on thursday default time.
    Danilinho´s team need to play the game under the name of "Elastico" and Che_Calego´s team mates need to play the games with the id posted in the forum. (that also counts for a possible final)

    That also means, that the final is postponed to next week thursday (14.03.2019)!
    Good Luck!
     
  4. Che_Galego

    Che_Galego Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2018
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Console:
    PC
    Your competition, your rules, we'll take your decision because we have fun playing this matches.

    I would love to see that level of commitment and attention to detail by iFVPA on things like competitions schedule, organization and comunication.
    The replay of the match only serves one team, the team that got defeated, Elastico.
    The majority of the my team didnt even wanted to replay the match and the Portuguese community doesnt agree with what happened here.
    You know they're the same players, because the names are right on the VPN site. This didnt affect the outcome of the match in any way. This is particular situation and should have been handled with a warning or a captain suspension.

    If the 10.2 rule is that important and we are postponing a final because of it, why arent we redoing the round of 8 and 16? Why does it need to be reported for you to take actions? We had the same players with the lack of 5 letters on the forum on the previous rounds...
     
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2019
  5. Danilinho

    Danilinho Member

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2018
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Console:
    PC
    Elastico / El Tornado won´t play a rematch against Vitória FC eSports.
    Good luck in the final.
     
  6. JonnyEsbeck

    JonnyEsbeck Staff Member [ iFVPA ] Moderator PC Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2016
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Console:
    PC
    No one is able to check all ID´s of every player in the competition in every match. When a team opens a protest after the deadline of 48h we will check it and judge about it.

    8. Help Requests
    For issues outside of the rules and regulations regarding clarification and / or amendment to rules, squads, fixtures or any other related question or issue regarding the competition you can contact Admin for support.

    If the topic of the request is about the outcome of the game, request must be done NO LATER than 48 hours after the conclusion of a game.

    If no one opens a protest in time, there wouldnt be any judging of the match even if there was a violation of rule 10.2.

    EVERY team or player is allowed to open a protest if they think it is needed.
     
  7. KingLuca

    KingLuca Staff Member [ iFVPA ] Administrator [ iFVPA ] Moderator PC Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2015
    Messages:
    70
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Console:
    PC
    That means Vitoria FC eSports will advance to the final. Final remains 14th March, default time.
     
    Che_Galego likes this.

Share This Page